Folks, you know we have a lot of stuff on the plate here, and we have a lot of questions being asked. We have people here who can answer the questions, and we can debate these points for a long time here and not get to the root of the issues that are before us. So it's up to committee members how far you want to go on this thing.
Mr. Williams, one last point, and then let's decide what we're going to do here.