Evidence of meeting #69 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
I raised a point of order first, Mr. Chairman. You are giving everyone who raises a point of order the floor. I would like to remind you of something. We have not settled—
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
Mr. Chairman, I raised a point of order which has not been addressed. You did not answer my question. You said earlier that it was—
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
I am still on the same point of order, Mr. Chairman.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
Mr. Laforest, give the chair a chance. You say you have a point of order. You're second on the list. His point of order was before yours.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
It's the same one I raised earlier, Mr. Chairman. You never answered my question and you gave other members the floor.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
I raised a point of order with regard to the fact that earlier, Mr. Williams said that by tabling this motion, I was an affront to the committee and to the House of Commons. Mr. Chairman, you told me that it was a matter of interpretation and that you did not hear him say that. I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Everyone heard the same thing. I feel Mr. Williams must apologize because I am also a member of this committee. I am an elected member of Parliament and I do not accept Mr. Williams' characterization of me. I demand that he immediately apologize to me, Mr. Chairman.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
Mr. Laforest, the only thing I can say is that memory isn't a good recorder. We can review what was said in the blues, and if your point is substantiated we can come back and deal with it. But right now my recollection is not—
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
Mr. Chairman, if you refuse to ask Mr. Williams to apologize, I will challenge your decision once more. You are refusing to ask Mr. Williams to apologize and to withdraw his words. I challenge your decision.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
There's a point of order and I've made a ruling on the point of order. Now I have an indication from Mr. Laforest that he's challenging the decision of the chair and wants it sustained in the committee.
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
This is outright obstruction by the opposition—by the Bloc, anyway.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
Mr. Chairman, I am asking you to ask Mr. Williams... You are the chairman, and you have the power to do so.
Mr. Poilievre, wait your turn.
Mr. Chairman, you have the power to ask Mr. Williams... You are the chairman and you are suppose to be neutral. I am asking you to ask Mr. Williams to apologize and to take back what he said. If you don't do so, I will challenge your decision.
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
It's unfortunate that Mr. Laforest's feelings are hurt, but we have serious work to do here. Can we just get back to work? Go outside, kiss and make up, whatever you want to do, but let's get to work. This is ridiculous. We're adults. Stop crying and get over it. Let's get to work.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
You're really raising more a question of privilege, to my understanding, rather than a point of order, and really I don't have the ability to deal with a question of privilege. My understanding is that this is a reference that you have to make back to the House and the Speaker and have it dealt with through the House procedures.
If that's the correct advice I'm getting, you're really asking the wrong person to deal with something.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order. Given that the situation is becoming ridiculous and a circus atmosphere prevails, I would ask for today's meeting to be adjourned until we can see the transcript of the meeting.
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Conservative
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
No, sir, you do not need unanimous consent, but rather a recorded vote.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
We need total support for that to adjourn and I don't think we have that.
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Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
No, sir. Under the standing orders, you do not need unanimous consent. I am asking for the meeting to be adjourned and I am asking that the question be put.