Well, they had different levels of tenure and different levels of employment. Mr. Ewanovich wasn't a civilian member of the RCMP; he was a contract member of the RCMP, which is somewhat different.
That having been said, it was clear in the Brown report that Mr. Gauvin was, from Mr. Brown's findings, responsible for some of the lack of oversight with respect to how the pension fund found itself in the situation that it did. After the Brown report came out, Mr. Gauvin came to me and said that he was prepared to accept responsibility from the Brown report and was prepared to step down as the chief financial officer. It was clear at that point in time that there was very little other avenue to take.
As for the process with the RCMP for a civilian member, if we were to consider that level of accountability as something for dismissal, we would start a code of conduct process, and it would take up to two or three years to seek Mr. Gauvin's dismissal at the time and under the circumstances—