Mr. Chairman, I want to point out that they are telling us how they're reducing the square metres per staff member and they have these ratios, but they have no concept or capacity to determine dollar cost per employee and so on if they don't have this lease-out agreement. Every other private sector organization charges out to profit centres the space occupied by their departments. I don't know why the government won't do it either.
If you have a long and convoluted answer, you could perhaps table a response to us because I want to see it done.