I have one other point I want to make.
I have contacted the Department of Public Works as a member of Parliament, and your position is that you won't deal with members of Parliament at your levels. We're referred to some communications person.
You won't meet with a member of Parliament, but Mr. McGrath, you have no problem at all sitting down with a lobbyist—and some people describe him in other words—like Mr. Doucet. Do you see any conflict with that policy? I really see a problem.