First of all, I knew it was lack of space and not that we had more space. During my tenure as a public works minister, I was concerned about the amount of space we were using, because, if you recall, after a program review, I believe in 1996-97, we reduced our staff by about 50,000 people. I was concerned because we had 50,00 fewer people working for the Government of Canada. I was looking at the space, and the number of metres we were using was increasing. For me, it didn't make sense. We had less people and we needed more space, so that was the debate I had with the department.
Frankly, I never heard that.... Because of moving, because you had to plan in advance to retrofit a building, for a certain period there might be a lack of occupancy. But generally I think the department was managing it very well.