Well, the record is contrary to that. We have one gentleman who actually objected to the political interference. In fact, he could not recommend that the tenant remain in Place Victoria by virtue of the fact that he could not justify it to his deputy and to the minister, by virtue of the fact that the economics weren't working and he was the number four bidder.
So there was interference. We know perfectly well that Claude Drouin's letter turned things around on its ear, and I'm trying to find out why you, as a former minister of the department, seem to think you had no capacity to influence anything when your parliamentary secretary could, just by virtue of a letter, turn things around on a dime after they had all been concluded.