I am going to do this, Chair, and say that he has said that he has not been involved with the file. We have had no information from him. All of the questions that have been asked have been meandering and going nowhere. The only thing we've been left with is that Jean-Marc Bard should be appearing before the committee.
Well, it's very nice to have two meetings and that's essentially what we get out of them. I think it's an incredible waste of money. It's been an incredible waste of time.
Mr. Gagliano, I apologize that you have been brought before the committee for no reason.