Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
On a personal note, I've never been in favour of bringing in ministers, because they tend to change the dynamics of the committee.
Leaving that aside, because that's a personal issue, it's a longstanding policy of the public accounts committee. Mr. Goodale has already been before us for one hour. He reiterated what Janice Cochrane had said, that despite what we think, the government now sees this as two separate issues.
There was a contract with Bonaventure and a contract with Place Victoria. Nobody is going to admit they were the same, because they did this splitting of hairs right down the middle and treated it as two separate contracts. When you use that philosophy, there's nothing. You can't break down that logic, although I totally disagree with it.
Yes, you can answer a few more questions, but when I think about what we just dealt with here today, I could go on for a week lambasting what the government hasn't done in the last 25 years as far as Indian affairs is concerned and this first nation in the Yukon Territory.
We have other issues we need to deal with. I think we should be thinking about writing a report condemning what happened in Place Victoria and the way it transpired, and say we never want to see this again. But I'm not sure it's good value for time to bring in Mr. Goodale and Don Boudria. Jean-Marc Bard--I don't mind kicking him around; we kicked him around before, and he deserved it and needs it again. But the ministers, I'm reluctant.