I'll just summarize in one final sentence.
We have two separate issues. One is a contract that apparently did not follow the rules, for which the Minister of Finance has apologized, and then we have these other contracts that do follow the rules and for which no apology is required. In neither case does the committee require testimony from the President of the Treasury Board. He is totally extraneous to this issue. I would ask that he be removed, and I would be more inclined to support the motion if that were to happen.