Based on my recollection, I perhaps met with the regional director once or twice, and always in the presence of Mr. Nurse or Ms. Beal. As I said earlier, there is a hierarchy, and we respected it. We consistently, and without exception acted through Mr. Nurse, the Assistant Deputy Minister, or Ms. Beal in order to obtain the information in question. Never directly—
On April 3rd, 2008. See this statement in context.