Sir, it's very hard for me to say. If I can recap very shortly, Minister Gagliano left his post as minister on January 15, 2002, so up to that date I can answer your questions.
As far as the figures are concerned, in the minister's office we were far from being experts at analyzing what the civil service did, particularly the real property service within the department. When we left the department, I don't think they were that far up. Nothing was concluded with either Place Bonaventure or Place Victoria, so it's very hard for me to pronounce myself and state that I agree or disagree with the numbers referred to by you and also by the Auditor General.