I don't have the information in front of me, but I'd be prepared to provide it to the committee. It would take some research.
I can give you a couple of examples. The one that springs to mind most readily is our ambassador to Afghanistan, Arif Lalani, who comes from a middle eastern background, is familiar with the region and so forth. He's an outstanding younger officer who comes from exactly the pool you're referring to.
The fact is, though, that in our efforts to hire new Canadians and Canadians from the new communities of Canada, it takes a while for them to get to the senior levels of the organizations. In Mr. Lalani's case, I believe he was probably hired in the early 1990s. But we have now a large number of visible minority Canadians coming in who will take over the senior positions, but right now we are, I think, hindered by the fact that we did not have the good recruitment success, I'd say, in the 1980s that we needed to have to get those sorts of persons at senior levels.