That I appreciate, and I don't doubt the value of Ms. Fraser's work and the sincerity with which you look at it. I've seen the reports before; I've seen government, with all great sincerity, address them before. Yet the effectiveness, and not necessarily just in your department but in other departments, has been wanting. There's an initial energy and enthusiasm, but yet, whether because of silo effect or lack of funds, we return to the table four, five, eight years hence and have another deputy minister saying that this is a great auditor's report, and we're going to get right at it—here's our first step at it. And we return to the same conversation.
What I'm trying to find out is whether there is a mechanism being considered to show throughout your department the seriousness of this, and that if it's not performed and if certain markers are not hit, then the consequences are on performance reviews, on financial remuneration—something to give us assurance in the House of Commons that this thing will actually happen.