Mr. Chairman, first, I don't know that it's fair for us to adduce from the report that 21 out of 28 haven't met their targets. I think that's maybe stretching things a bit. But it's maybe not the most important issue either.
In terms of targets, we find it difficult to have a situation develop where 28 government departments and agencies are able to essentially set their own targets, their own yardsticks, and measure success or failure against that standard. I don't think personally that's the way this should be run.
I think one needs to get a sense, for the government overall, of what the government is trying to achieve in the way of greening its operations, and to then back those initiatives up into individual departments and agencies and say, you're responsible for helping us do this and here are your targets, which we are expecting you to achieve. They're not something the departments have necessarily created only by themselves; they're a set of targets that would have been developed by the government for the government as a whole.
Then you'd have the government report back in total how it's doing in meeting its targets and would have individual departments and agencies who are responsible for contributing to that meeting of targets held accountable, perhaps through their DPRs, for how well they've done in helping the government as a whole move forward.
These are the kinds of targets, sir, that we're talking about. The government, as we've heard today, is not there yet.