We did both, Mr. Chair. We talked to representatives from other correctional services, both within Canada and internationally, and we also looked at other institutions that were engaged in the mass delivery of things like food and cleaning products, both in the hospitality and hospital industries, to understand the types of economies that they had been able to achieve through analysis of their purchasing practices, particularly with the changes in the way in which food and other types of services are now being packaged and delivered. Comparisons on a head-to-head basis were simply not possible because there were too many other variables, but we were convinced, looking at the practice of others, both in corrections and in other industries, that it was reasonable to expect that doing the type of analysis that those industries had done would yield potentially significant savings.