I would say that the department has gone through, and is going through, a business transformation. We are going through a business transformation. I'll give you an example.
We used to do a lot of building maintenance. Now we have a contract with SNC-Lavalin ProFac. They carry out the work in our buildings. This was done in full consultation with our unions. It is working very well.
Frankly, on this business transformation that we're doing, I made reference to the 9% attrition we're going through every year. It's not only about shedding people, it's about transforming. But we try to offset the change in business delivery with attrition so that we don't impact individuals.
The second point I would make, and this can be tested, is that we have a very professional and very good relationship with our union folks. As to the number of grievances, I don't know if Madam Meredith has that, but I can get it for you. I understand it's specifically about the issue of professional services versus work that could be done by....
I'll look and see if I have the data, and I will provide that to the chair.