I would like to start, Mr. Chair, by saying I too was pleased to see that there was a columnist who actually reported on a positive story, and I think it's important that Canadians know that things do improve and do change.
Unfortunately, I don't have the qualifications of the internal audit committee members. I probably should know that, but I would say that in the report we looked at the process. We found certainly at the Immigration and Refugee Board, and I would say the others as well, that there was a statement of qualifications required. There was a process in place to ensure that people were vetted through interviews. At the Immigration and Refugee Board, there's a written exam that they have to pass.
We certainly saw evidence at the board that all of that documentation was in the file. But we did not go and assess the qualifications of the people. That really is the responsibility and the prerogative of the minister and Governor in Council, and it would be inappropriate, I believe, for us to do that. We ensure that there is a system in place, and if we see evidence that the system is being respected, then I think one can assume that the people who are appointed are qualified for the positions that they hold.