Before we deal with it, I'll explain a little of the background, Mr. Shipley. I'm certainly not disagreeing with your thinking at all. I know what you're saying.
These reports took a lot of time. They have age on them. They're getting yellow, I guess you can say. The background—for members who may have forgotten—is that we did have these five reports. The hearings were held in the previous Parliament. The only two members who would have gone through the hearings would be Mr. Christopherson and myself. The analysts wrote reports and, because of the election, didn't have an opportunity to deliberate on the reports or of course to file the reports in the House of Commons. The opinion of the steering committee, which was approved or sanctioned by this committee, was that instead of losing all the thoughts, the work and the recommendations, we should resurrect the reports. That also involved a motion, which was passed, to introduce and to bring before this committee the evidence of the committee.
Again, there are difficulties, because people didn't hear the demeanour of the witnesses. They weren't here. Even for the ones who were here, with due respect to those people, these events occurred quite some time ago. It does create some difficulties.
That's a little bit of the background on where we are on those two reports. One of the reports actually has gone through this committee, the report dealing with the fees. That's a bit of the background, but I'm at the instruction of the committee on this particular issue.
Mr. Saxton, then Mr. Christopherson.