Mr. Chair, in all fairness, I'd like to point out that, yes, they lapsed money in 2007-08, but in the four years previous to that, they were within their $200 million limit. We believe they have basic financial management in place. They need to have more sophisticated financial management going forward.
Personally, I have some sympathy for the department to have to manage within 1% of their budget and never go over. When you're in a situation where you can never spend more than your budget, you will always have a surplus. To manage that to within 1%.... There are not many departments that can do it.
I think the point we're trying to make here is that they need more sophisticated management tools going forward and more focus on the medium and longer term, especially given the increase in budgets that are coming, and some of the challenges that they will have with the capital acquisitions.