Right, so it's difficult to blame the department in a situation like this because it's just following the advice of its own legal counsel.
I'd like to echo the words of my colleague Mr. Kramp that the business case of GENS has been studied at the government operations committee. That's not the purpose of this committee. The purpose of this committee is simply to look at these audio recordings and to address Madame Faille's concerns regarding the audio recordings themselves.
Now I'd like to ask the witnesses a question. First of all, thank you all for coming here today and presenting your case. What are the steps the department took to seek the consent of the participants?