Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I would like to support my colleague Mr. Kramp and my colleague Mr. Saxton. Having the double hats of being a lawyer and a businessperson, I could not agree more with Mr. Saxton. I think if anything can be learned here, it's that the next time consultations are had, they are going to be taped. The easy answer is to say to the participants that these are being taped and could be made public. Sheer participation would then be the consent needed to disclose it, if it were necessary.
I think if anything can be taken here from a positive perspective, it's that everybody has learned something about the process. I would also suggest that in those consultations, we as parliamentarians would have had every right to sit in on those consultations. We as an entire committee could have gone and sat in on those consultations. Therefore, we would have heard those names. That should support Mr. Kramp's view that at the very least we go in camera and we can hear the missing pieces of the tape and the issue should be resolved. With only the support of Madame Faille's incredibly hard work, we look forward to hearing the response from the department as to the discrepancy.