Fair enough.
My next question would be to Mr. Vaughan. On page 24, you stated that the government said it does not intend to monitor targets on this trust fund. You also stated that the $635 million, which according to the Minister of Finance in his ways and means debate was supposed to be 220,000 tonnes.... It turns out it is not even 35,000 tonnes.
Also, the department stated to the government that this would be totally negligible. This was the tax credit for the public transit tax credit. Is there any evidence that the ridership is up? We know, one, there's been no reduction in GHGs, but does anybody have any evidence that the ridership went up in the four metropolitan areas that use public transit?
Number two, is there any evidence--because I understand that the Canadian government had stated it would cost $800 per tonne, but the actual cost is about $2,000 to $7,000 per tonne--that there is value for money here? Are we dealing with ideology-driven initiatives versus evidence-based initiatives?