Certainly, Mr. Chair.
For the most part, it is our belief that situations where you have ten people in a cell for three are an extreme exception. I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but we don't believe it happens frequently.
We have a couple of other things. Number one, we have a new national policy in terms of what the managers of these holding centres are to do when they exceed capacity. Number two, we are working more acutely with all of the provinces to get arrangements in place so that we can transfer high-risk individuals into their holding centres, which will reduce the stress on ours. Finally, we do work with the Red Cross and we do work with the stakeholders in the refugee community to make sure the standards that we are adopting are consistent with their expectations.