Yes, and honestly, this is a committee that recognizes, as the people in agriculture have recognized, there have been some issues.
For clarification, I know I asked you about this the other day, but you said that much of the laboratory and agriculture equipment is past its useful life. Is that the book value? Is that an operational value, where it's actually past its useful life and doesn't have any value? Has equipment been upgraded, even though some of the laboratory equipment is outdated?