Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Ms. Fraser, I have one more question to ask you about information technology.
You have submitted several reports in recent years. Annual spending amounting to billions of dollars is in issue. The people at Public Works and Government Services Canada respond to you and agree with you. That's the good news. The bad news is that in spite of that, virtually nothing happens over the years. First, I wondered whether you were discouraged. Reading the report, I really wondered what the solution was. Are we going to have to call in experts and get outside advice? How can we hope that by four or five years from now things are going to get resolved?