Thank you for those questions.
It is a challenge to find experienced evaluators. Clearly we're building up this community rapidly. We're building it up largely through intake from universities.
We have a consortium of universities working with us to offer evaluation courses and help with certification. They are from right across the country, from Carleton and Ottawa universities here through Quebec's Université Laval and l'Université de Montréal to the University of Saskatchewan, the University of Victoria, the University of Waterloo. It's right across the country. We're also working with the Canadian Evaluation Society in developing our standards.
We have a competency standard in circulation now that I think is quite good. We have a lot of courses being offered. We have a lot of support from the Canada School of Public Service. We're doing everything we can to build up this community.
It's true that when you start to get evaluators in one department, they could be poached by another department. We will keep trying to build up the community. In the end, as long as those evaluators remain within government, we're better off than we were without having them in government.