Before we go to the second round, I want the witnesses to address one issue and it is the uses made of this report. This is not my own anecdotal evidence. It is empirical evidence from reports written. These reports get almost no readership. The media doesn't use them. Parliamentarians don't use them. The public doesn't use them.
In my own view, if they were more user-friendly, people would use them, and I think the trust would be bridged.
Mr. Smith, obviously you've read this report prepared by CCAF. Does that not concern you? Have you made any move to make these reports more user friendly? Because I've always said that any department could take 60 blank pages, put a great big staple through that, submit it and say “that's your departmental performance report”, and no one would ever notice the difference.
Has this been discussed? Is there any thinking....? Right now your reports aren't being used. Does that not bother you? Are you trying to address that?