I could get the math for you on that.
The first one was the James Bay agreement in 1975. There was a wave in the 1990s in the Yukon and across the north; they had been at the table for close to 15 years.
You see that in some cases it gets faster because it's pretty clear what the template is. If I could take this opportunity, I'll note that the people with unsettled claims at the south end of the Mackenzie Valley, the Dehcho and the Akaitcho, know exactly what kind of agreement they could get because the Gwich'in, the Sahtu, the Tlicho, and the Inuvialuit agreements are there for them to read. They've decided they want to hold out for a different kind of agreement. We always hope that by setting the example and giving a pretty clear sense of what you can get at the table, you can go to another negotiating table and say, “Is this close enough?” or “How do you want to adapt it?”
It's the same thing in British Columbia. Now that we have treaties in place with the Tsawwassen and with the Maa-nulth, we probably can get seven or eight more treaties fairly quickly. There are a few complicated issues around fish allocation to work through, which I'm not underestimating, but I'm trying to be optimistic.
But actually the average doesn't tell you very much; we expect momentum to build, to feed on itself.