I'm talking about how we got from then to now. I listened to Ms. Cartwright. Through her responsibility she's met with everybody present, past, and future, quite honestly, to try to come up with some sort of recommendation. I need some help to understand that we've not just built some sort of bureaucracy to help fill chairs for, quite honestly—I'm going to be honest with you—department people, deputy ministers, maybe, who actually, in my mind, should just be doing their jobs. I need to have the comfort that we actually have people who are actually doing their jobs, and I'm struggling with that when I read here that we've had to do all of this. I mean, look, you've met with over 500 different individuals and organizations. I find that staggering and a little bit disturbing.
On October 19th, 2010. See this statement in context.