Thank you, Chair.
As we note in the audit, we really looked to see whether the legislation had been implemented, but we didn't look to the effects, for two reasons. One is that it's quite clear in the mandate of the Auditor General that we don't do effectiveness reviews; we would look to see what departments have done to assess effectiveness. The question of the performance indicators and whether they have the information is related to that.
As well, though, there's a recognition that these are still fairly early days in a very major shift. It would be more appropriate, I think, to wait for the work that is being done regarding the legislative review to see government's own processes and their assessment of what needs to be done and how successful it has been so far.
On the question of deputy ministers, one of the very positive things that we note in the report is that there has been a shift. We found that the deputy ministers are taking their responsibility for human resource management and are engaged in the human resource management. I think that is a very significant positive finding of the report.