Thank you, Mr. Chair.
The engagement sessions that we conducted were in fact with managers, HR professionals, and employees, including several sessions that we held with new public servants. It was clear from the energy at the engagement sessions that people at the working level are in fact very much engaged in what changes PSMA brought about, particularly the Public Service Employment Act.
The involvement of people at the working level tends to be a bit less on the labour relations side, but even there they are very much engaged, seeing real dividends that they describe to us in terms of the advantages of informal discussion and informal conflict management systems. That was one of the fundamental objectives of the PSMA, to bring increasing opportunities to resolve issues informally as close to the workplace as possible.
So yes, at the working level, they're definitely engaged.