I have a supplementary question.
Once again, I would like to pursue the same line of thought as Mr. D'Amours, who seems to want to put some important questions on the table. I will not go on about this at length, but according to the questions that I am hearing around the table, we need more specific information about your action plan. The timetables have to be clarified, the steps taken, and decisions made about who will do what and when. We need additional indicators, and a complete report on what you intend to do and how you will do it. How are you going to measure the progress of this project?
I am really quite perplexed. A little earlier, I gave you a few examples that illustrate how complex it can be to really identify a conflict of interest. However, one thing transcends all that. It is that code that has been in existence for a long time. Despite that, I don't have the impression that the system allows us to find out what is really going on.
I don't know whether other members of the committee have had an opportunity to read about the case involving Mr. Tipple and Mr. Rotor this summer, but this was a case of swindling and cover-up. Those are harsh words, even when uttered by judges. I would like the people from Treasury Board to commit themselves to telling us what they intend to do so that we can truly find out what is going on.
Ms. Meredith, I know you have had a long career as a public servant. Sometimes, it is more difficult because one can trace decisions or situations where you were present. You were present when there were decisions made about Royal LePage, Brookfield and the 2009 process. You appeared before our committee and you said certain things. The reality was completely different. There were discussions. Certain statements made by the deputy minister and by you did not match up. They were different.
I would like to know what you are going to do. Are you going to show some leadership? How are you going to broach these issues with different departments? You said earlier that in situations where you were uncertain, you did not make any statements. You are at Treasury Board right now, you have to protect your boss, you have to disclose certain things to your boss. There are situations at Treasury Board; you are aware of the case. There is an investigation. We are talking about a weekend in a chalet, of Caribbean and Alaskan cruises, of a golf tournament, a horseback riding day and dinners in restaurants.