I agree with Mr. Kramp concerning some of the points he has raised. That said, I also sat on the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates. At this point, given the presentation that was made on how to detect fraud and problems involving the public accounts, this issue comes under our responsibility as well. The considerations in the Auditor General's report are serious. The presentation that was made to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates indicated that over 50% of fraud and mismanagement in government involves employees and people who deal with the department. In both cases, the Auditor General's report indicates that there were situations that Ms. Ouimet was unable to manage properly.
In some situations, there were improprieties relating to contracts. If taxpayers' money has been misused, that is a matter for the public accounts committee. We need to get to the bottom of things. However, we cannot prevent the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates from summoning Ms. Ouimet and carrying out an operational audit.
I am calling for these documents because the fraud aspect is a serious issue. Protecting disclosures and whistleblowers is important. For Ms. Ouimet to have acted in such a way beginning in 2007, given her long experience in the public service and comments by former colleagues, there must be some background. Since Ms. Ouimet has not appeared before the committee, I believe that we have a duty to look at how the agencies see this situation. There is no doubt that the Privy Council and Treasury Board, for example, are uncomfortable about this report. But there must be some information in the documents that would help us understand a little bit of what happened.
I also agree with Mr. Saxton, who suggested that we discuss this on Thursday. I simply wanted to be sure that I could table my motion today, since we were discussing it. If the committee would like to deal with the motion on Thursday, I would be equally agreeable to that.