Evidence of meeting #44 for Public Accounts in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Yes, Mr. Chair, I am flexible concerning the date. I suggest that we put in February 19 rather than Monday February 14. In my opinion, it would be reasonable that we receive the documents by February 19.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

Okay. I think the main concern was that Monday might be a little too tight. Also, it wouldn't likely have an impact on what the law clerk would provide by way of information from a procedural point of view for the committee. Whether the subsequent day or two days afterwards or three days afterwards...it's already contained, I think, in the spirit of the motion: get us the information so that we can deal with it once we have the legal and procedural parameters before us.

Mr. D'Amours has removed the 14th as the date. Okay? Let me read the amended motion so that you can see where the amendments fit in. That's important. I'd like to read it rather slowly so that our interpreters have it, and that will be the record.

I am going to read the motion in French so that the interpreter can give us a precise translation in English. Agreed?

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), with regard to the report by the Auditor General on the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner of Canada, the committee asks the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, the Privy Council Office, the Canadian Human Rights Commission and Status of Women Canada to produce all correspondence between their offices and the Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner of Canada for the period from April 30, 2009 to February 8, 2011;

This is the amendment:

“in addition, that a copy of the letter of resignation and of any agreement between the Government of Canada and Ms. Ouimet following her resignation...

That's the amended part. It continues:

I will continue: “ [...] and that these documents and files be submitted to the committee in both official languages for the meeting of February 19, 2011.”

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

We should say “prior to February 19, 2011” because there will not be a meeting on February 19.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

Merci.

That's the amended motion.

I'm going to call for a vote on the amendment of Monsieur D'Amours.

Those in favour?

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Mr. Chairman, could we hold a recorded vote, please?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

Very well.

Unless, of course, all colleagues just simply say “yes”.

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Some hon. members

Yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

(Amendment agreed to)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

The amendment carries. So we do not need a vote. I am going to move now immediately to the main motion as amended.

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Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

I am asking for a recorded division.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

No, I am going to put the same question.

Do all the members accept the motion as amended? Yes?

We have the unanimous consent of all of the members of the committee. No vote is necessary.

Thank you, colleagues.

Mr. Kramp, you had a question.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Yes. Thank you, Chair.

In the spirit of trying to move this case forward, I'm hoping to get the same kind of collegial cooperation from my colleagues that we've just afforded.

My apologies to our invited guests today. I'm very sorry to keep you in abeyance. I would hope that we would get through this as quickly as possible.

I have an amendment that I would like to make, Chair, accompanied by a disclosure form, which I will table for the chair, that comes from the office of the public sector.... It's documentation. It's right there. My amendment comes directly from the actual form that is here for you. I have this here, and I will deposit that with you, Chair, should you wish. It's a federal government document.

So we would certainly--and we could--support the motion by Madame Faille with this following amendment. Where it says on this document “from the Office of the Public Sector Integrity--

4:15 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

A point of order, Mr. Chairman.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

Mr. Kramp, one moment, please.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

We've already passed the main motion.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joe Volpe

We dealt with Madame Faille's motion as amended already--

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NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Yes, we already passed it. So this is an amendment to what...?

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

No. We dealt with Mr. D'Amours' motion, not Madame Faille's motion.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Yes, we did. We did.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

The motion of Madame Faille.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

No.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

Our understanding is that we dealt with Mr. D'Amours' motion, and that's why Mr. Kramp stood down—

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Mr. Chair, if you'll recall, I said I had an amendment to make--

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Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

And you said to wait until we dealt with Mr. D'Amours' motion.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Yes, Chair; you said to wait until we dealt with that.