If I may, Mr. Chair, can I take one minute?
I think I finally understood Mr. Caron's question.
There were two separate audit reports.
In our report on financial management in chapter 1 of the same report, we indicated that there still remain to be significant improvements in internal control that are required in government, so yes, that was one of our findings on internal controls. There is still a lot of work to do to strengthen internal controls.
Internal audit is different, and I would be expecting that the internal auditors in each of those departments would be looking at the internal controls in their departments, reaffirming that message to their deputy ministers, and identifying the areas of control that need strengthening.
I don't see any contradiction between the two messages, from my perspective. There's a lot of work to do in strengthening internal control
in departments, in my opinion,
and internal audit is an important source of assurance to the deputy minister on what areas need strengthening and how to go about strengthening them.
Thank you for indulging me on that, Mr. Chair.