Evidence of meeting #69 for Public Accounts in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was friedman.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Ferguson  Auditor General of Canada, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Rubin Friedman  Member of the Board of Directors and Principal Operating Officer, Canadian Race Relations Foundation
Nicholas Swales  Principal, Office of the CIDA, Foreign Affairs and International Trade, Passport Canada, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Alex Smith  Committee Researcher

12:10 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

It was in 2010. We're going back two years prior to that.

I have to tell you, it seems reasonable to me. To go back, what amounts to just shy of five years, that takes us two years before the change. That would give us some sense of any pattern of any issues, if there were any, or whether things were going along fine. We can also see how it's been the last two or three years. Five is a usual catchment number. This is pretty close to five years. For what it's worth, it seems to me that going back five years is asking a fair bit of an organization, but that's not beyond the pale. It meets our needs. I don't see it as being overly political, given the government has been in power since 2006.

My inclination is to stay with what we've requested and that we ask for it back to 2008, any correspondence between the foundation and the ministry or the minister vis-à-vis appointments to the board. Any of that correspondence that exists, we'd like to see a copy of it. Mr. Friedman has agreed. He's going to try to meet our initial deadline of January 15, 2013.

Mr. Friedman, if for some reason you can't, you're going to correspond with our clerk, advise her that you're having difficulties, what those difficulties are, and how much of an extension you might be seeking. That's what we're looking for from you by the 15th. So far, Mr. Friedman feels that's a reasonable request in terms of his ability to respond to our request within that timeframe.

Colleagues, I'm inclined to let that stand. If we have that information, it's timely, and the analysts will have it in time to incorporate it into their report. Then we'll be ready to go sometime in the new year when the draft is in front of us.

That's how I see where we are right now. Are we all okay with that instruction and that understanding going forward?

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

Mr. Chair, we will review the information when it comes in and make a further decision at that time.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

You can do that in the context of when the draft is first in front of us, because it will have incorporated that. If you have some reason to request any action, as always, I will entertain the motion.

That's our understanding, folks.

Again, with that, I thank our guests very much. Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Swales, you did an excellent job as always. Mr. Friedman, you were very impressive, sir, and thank you very much for your appearance today.

We will now suspend and then reconvene in camera in five minutes.

[Proceedings continue in camera]