Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
We started this discussion talking about the frustration over the lack of progress, and the lack of positive progress, in terms of the indicators—the criterion of the standard of living index—to show that life for first nations on reserve is getting better.
Mr. Wernick, as a key principle originally in the Kelowna accord—I can't help but ask you, as someone who knows this issue from the draft of the Kelowna accord and who has participated very directly and very positively in trying to find solutions to this day—if the Kelowna accord were in place today.... You were on both sides of this case, and I'm not trying to put you in a difficult situation, but people want to know. We've had instances where premiers, where first ministers as early as just a year ago, were still suggesting the Kelowna accord would provide a positive road map for this circumstance. The Assembly of First Nations and others continually suggest that if the road map were provided by the Kelowna accord, we would be better off.
I'm not going to put you in too difficult a spot, but I have to ask you, is much of the progress made today in tripartite agreements and other things...? Has a kernel of that come from some of the successes of a tripartite agreement signed in 2005, called the Kelowna accord, which at least can provide us with a good example of a road map on other things and other progress?