Understood, Mr. Scrimger, but the reality is that the answer to the question ultimately is not to be held by you or I as a personal opinion. It's to be done through analytical assessment. The fact is that one of the concerns of the Auditor General is that there was no post-program assessment of the consequences to clients from some of these reforms. Would that be fair to say? If there's a contradictory point of view to that, then I'll ask Mr. Ferguson to respond.
On April 16th, 2013. See this statement in context.