The obvious question then comes back to Mr. Scrimger.
Since that's one of the departments identified in the report, did you look to that department as a model or template and say we're the overarching ones at Treasury Board Secretariat? Since we're the overarching player in all of this, did you look at them and say they're doing a pretty good job, we should do this? Of course, the subsequent question is, if they were doing it, why weren't the rest?