Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to everyone for coming.
I feel as if I actually need a computer to track all of the places all of you go. I'm not quite sure how to track it. It would be nice to have a flow chart, actually, as to who does what, where, and who reports to whom. Quite frankly, all of your testimony quite clearly indicates there is a whole whack of you doing a whole whack of things—pardon the language—and I'm not so sure all of you are actually talking together anymore, but there's a whole whack of work being done.
Through you, Chair, if there's an overarching agency that actually has some sort of chart that shows who goes where, and who reports to whom, and what the systems are, it would be immensely helpful in tracking.
We know we have CCIRC and CSEC. We have Shared Services. We have another group over there, somewhere else. We have some engaged partners and some not engaged partners. Quite frankly, what I just heard of agencies that have bits here, bits there, in different departments, under different ministries, under different deputy ministers, and under different cabinet ministers is a bit of a mishmash, to be truthful. I don't see an overarching umbrella, with somebody holding the umbrella handle. Quite frankly, that's not encouraging, from my perspective.
Mr. Ferguson, what I think you were trying to indicate in your report was that we need cyber-security. It's an essential tool that's needed for government and for private sector. Somehow we need to have a managed system that works for both. I believe that's what the report was trying to indicate to us. I'm not so sure we have a system in which we actually have a sense of who's doing all of this.
I ask this question, Mr. Ferguson. You talked about CCIRC and the fact that the mandate was 24-7. Do you still believe that, sir, in the sense that we should still follow that mandate, or is that something you wouldn't be overly concerned with? We've heard from Mr. Guimont that we've increased the hours but not to where the mandate was.