I hate to interrupt you, but that doesn't speak well to your department if you can't supply your own evidence to support the systems you're actually working with. The whole idea of being able to tell the Auditor General and then Parliament whether your system works is that by having the evidence you can actually prove it. That's actually a deficiency of your department, sir. I don't think it's anyone else's deficiency.
Mr. Perron, on page 5 of the Auditor General's report, in paragraph 4.26, he talks about how the issue of nurses not having completed mandatory training goes back to a previous report in 2010. Also, later in his report, a similar comment is made on page 23 in the English version, in paragraph 4.115. It's a similar idea: “The need to measure whether Health Canada provides comparable access was also raised in...2010.”
The Auditor General said in both of those paragraphs that you were told in 2010 that you needed to do this. I'm not suggesting, Mr. Perron, that you might have been the person there—I don't know—but clearly your department was there. Here we are five years later and at the time you did supply an action plan to this committee for the 2010 report that said “thou shalt do”. Some of the timelines are June 2011, April 2010, December 2010, and March 2011. This is May 2015. If I were your teacher, I'd say that you've all flunked.
Do you have any response as to why this didn't get completed and the Auditor General is now back and asking you how come? You're before us and we're asking you, how come?