Thank you.
Mr. Chair, perhaps in the interest of time, I won't take a full five-minute round.
Mr. Ferguson, being able to accurately judge the success of a program is extremely important. It was mentioned in part of the testimony we heard that there are barriers to employment for indigenous Canadians that are far beyond skills training. At the individual level, people need to have skills to obtain and keep a good full-time job.
I've travelled to the north with the finance committee, where we heard about other significant barriers: absence of roads, absence of all kinds of other infrastructure that impedes economic development in remote communities.
There may be some critics who would say that if programs can't be judged to be successful, then the funds ought to be allocated to other things, such as roads, water treatment systems or airports in remote areas.
What can we really tell Canadians about success that has been achieved in this program, so that Canadians might not demand of their parliamentarians that the money be spent in other ways?