Thank you.
It's good to see you, Mr. Ferguson. Thank you for your work on behalf of Canadians.
Thank you to our other witnesses today.
In the public accounts, you report the $615 million worth of pay errors. Of course, we know you characterized the Phoenix system as an “incomprehensible failure”. Part of your explanation of “incomprehensible” was that there was every bit of oversight and management that would seem appropriate, yet it happened.
Do you think that the underlying issue may not be a lack of oversight but the quality of oversight? I raise this now because we have 30 other significant IT projects that you've identified in your report, and if we don't have the right people, people capable of properly managing a major IT change in a department, as you rightly pointed out in your report, we risk further incomprehensible failures.
Do we have people who are qualified and actually capable of delivering oversight on IT? We still have $615 million that wasn't paid correctly in these accounts.