Mr. Chair, I think what we have found is that departments have data and have lots of data. Often it's in different databases. Sometimes it's on Excel spreadsheets.
However, what departments need to do is put an emphasis on managing the data, on figuring out what story they want to tell Canadians about the programs they manage and the way they run their departments, and on put together a process to put that data in an order they can manage and use in order to allow Canadians and members of this committee to understand how they are managing the programs and what the outcomes of the programs are.