By the way I was there. The Simms protocol, Chair—because I need you to make sure this works—is that if a member wants to comment or ask a question, not to engage in debate necessarily, although they can try, but more a matter of “hey, on that point”, then we'll have that little exchange. Then you make sure I get the floor back at the end of it, Chair, and it's usually about a minute or so. That's what we do at PROC.
