My colleague Diane may have to help me on this, Mr. Chair.
In terms of the debt, it is all government debt, wherever we have a legitimate debt that we think we will have to pay. It is loans, it's pensions, it's accounts payable. We consolidate our crowns in it, but we have a different method of accounting for some crowns from the method used for others.
I'll have her weigh in on CMHC versus Canada Post Corporation.
Concerning the second piece, on loan guarantees, these guarantees don't necessarily result in payments, so the actual debt number would not include loan guarantees. Loan guarantees are disclosed in the notes to the financial statements so that you get a sense of the size, but they're actually not part of the debt unless we think we would have a call on them.