Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I am going to continue on the same question that was raised earlier about the Department of National Defence.
Mr. Matthews, you previously mentioned that the situation at the Department of National Defence stemmed from the existence of an administrative culture.
My question will be for Ms. Hogan, but perhaps you can then supplement her answer.
We know this is an inventory problem. For example, we heard from representatives of the agency that manages housing, that is to say the houses and rents of the Department of National Defence. In our discussions with the witnesses, even they had trouble telling us how many units they managed. In fact, when we talk about administrative culture, I think there is a considerable problem. This example is the tip of the iceberg, and the problem has been brought to Parliament's attention for 13 consecutive years.
I think the government in power will have to introduce the necessary measures to establish that it is Canadians' money the Department of National Defence is managing. A correction will be necessary to maximize the use of public funds.
Could you tell us how the problem that was identified 13 years ago has evolved? Are we halfway to solving this problem? Have there been improvements in this area? On the other hand, if there has been only a 5% improvement in a problem that was identified 13 years ago, is the reason that it has been postponed and put off from year to year?
Ms. Hogan, I would like to hear your opinion on the situation at the Department of National Defence.