I was not there at that time.
If I understand your question correctly, as my colleague mentioned earlier, because of the nature of the work we do within the department and the work of the tribunal, as employees of the department, we must keep some distance between us.
As for the recommendations to the tribunal made to the Governor in Council by our minister and the Minister of Justice, we are not involved at all. During our conversations with the Auditor General of Canada, we emphasized—