To reiterate Mr. Poilievre's and Madam Shanahan's point, this is an educational meeting. We had it precisely to help us proceed. I think it's pushing it really far to pretend that having the parliamentary secretary attend the meeting is a partisan gesture.
There has in no way been any demonstration that the parliamentary secretary is pulling strings as Mr. Christopherson has accused her of doing. Actually, I find it very partisan to be taking that point instead of admitting that this is an instruction for us to learn how to do our job properly. There's absolutely no reason why the parliamentary secretary shouldn't be here.